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PostDikirim: Kam Ags 11, 2005 10:42 am    Judul: Report As Abusive, Offensive, or Rule Breaking Report As FlameStarter Report As Spam Vote For Sticky Vote For Award Balas dengan kutipan

kk,disini bole nanya stat BS forging nda?stat & skill yg diperlukan apa aj buat jd Pure Forging?

ada yg bisa ksh cth bikin senjata elemen ampe jd ssk?tq^^
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PostDikirim: Jum Ags 12, 2005 11:07 am    Judul: Report As Abusive, Offensive, or Rule Breaking Report As FlameStarter Report As Spam Vote For Sticky Vote For Award Balas dengan kutipan

stat luk ma dex 99 la.... klo skill, ambil yg buat nambah kemungkinan berhasilnya lbh gede, n equip2 yg pengen ditempa(spear,fist,sword,dll). klo skill battle ga usa
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PostDikirim: Sen Ags 15, 2005 11:50 am    Judul: Report As Abusive, Offensive, or Rule Breaking Report As FlameStarter Report As Spam Vote For Sticky Vote For Award Balas dengan kutipan

btw,Senjata bisa jd ssk itu gmn cara nya?skill apa yg diperlukan dan gmn bisa ada elemen dlm senjata?tq
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PostDikirim: Sel Ags 30, 2005 4:02 pm    Judul: Report As Abusive, Offensive, or Rule Breaking Report As FlameStarter Report As Spam Vote For Sticky Vote For Award Balas dengan kutipan

Mau tanya dong ^^<

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PostDikirim: Sel Ags 30, 2005 4:25 pm    Judul: Report As Abusive, Offensive, or Rule Breaking Report As FlameStarter Report As Spam Vote For Sticky Vote For Award Balas dengan kutipan

@JukTub 'n
Shadow of Death :

Liat aja quoting di bwh ini mungkin ngebantu Ragnarok Emote

Quote:
STATS: (there are 2 current methods, and one emerging method)

THE ORIGINAL --- Where DEX was twice the Power of LUK
starting 9 DEXterity, 9 LUcK, 9 STRength
- the object of this build is to get DEX and LUK to 99 by way of ( 2 DEX per every 1 LUK )

WITH THE ADVENT OF THE COMODO CHANGE --- where DEX and LUK have an equal success chance
starting 9 DEXterity, 9 LUcK, 9 STRength
- the object of this build is to get DEX and LUK to 99 in even amounts ( 1 DEX per every 1 LUK )

THE NEW VERSION
starting: 9 INTelligence, 9 DEXterity, 9 LUcK
- this version basis it's idea on the fact of abusing cart revolution and that 10-15 STR isn't gonna matter much
- the object of this build is to get DEX and LUK to 99 in even amounts ( 1 DEX per every 1 LUK )



this is due to the fact DEX and LUK raise the success % of creating a weapon

as stated in the versions:

DEX = LUCK in forging success addition

each DEX/lLUK adds +.1% success chance in forging so before JOB boosted STATS
- (10 LUK = +1% Success Chance)
- (10 DEX = +1% Success Chance)

99 DEX +
99 LUK
-------
198 * (+.1) = +19.8% success rate


now a Blacksmiths JOB Stat Boosts are:
+06 STR
+12 DEX
+02 LUK

+2 AGI -,
+6 VIT ----- Useless
+2 INT -'

so that brigs the grand total to

198 + 2 + 12 = 212 or +21.2% success chance BASED ON STATS

JOB INCREASE ALSO ADDS SUCCESS RATE AT .3% PER JOB LEVEL

50 * .3 = +15% SUCCESS RATE



BEFORE ADDITIONAL BOOSTING which will be at the END of this guide



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Now for the SKILLS and what they do/are needed for



---------- THE ESSENTIALS ----------

HILT BINDING (LVL 1)
- PRE REQUISITE for the Most MAJOR SKILL "WEAPON RESEARCH"
- Makes it impossible to loose your weapon in a dungeon if you ever die in one
- USELESS as no weapons drop, but needed to open "WEAPON RESEARCH"

WEAPON RESEARCH (LVL 10)
- NO BLACKSMITH SHOULD BE WITH OUT THIS SKILL
- INCREASES SUCCESS CHANCE 1% PER LEVEL (MAX +10%)
- ADDS 2 HIT per level (meaning you wont miss)
- ADDS 2 DAMAGE per level (IGNORES DEFENSE -- except plants for some reason)





---------- THE ORE REFINING ----------

IRON MAKING 5
- used to refine iron ore into iron, the base metal for all level one weapons from the basic knife to a pike to the oft sold katana


Steel Making Lvl 5
- The main ingredient in level 2 weapons and secondary material in level 3 weapon construction also used in some of the headgear quests like headset and cake hat. examples of level 2 weapons that use steel, are stillettos for thieves/assassins, Ring Pommel saber, and the hora, a knuckle weapon for monks, and it is used as the main ingredient in the level 3 weapons swordmace and stunner


Enchanted Stone Making 1 (NOT NEEDED as a prerequisite for OREIDECON RESEARCH)
- This is the supporting skill for Blacksmith to help make the super element stones. These "Enchanted stones" are what are added DURING FORGING ONLY to make elemental weapons and that is why they come to you NOT cause you can make a base non-elementl weapon.
- Allows you to refine 10 of the same weak elemental stones into the more powerful "Enchanted" stone
- "ENCHANTED STONES" are easily purchased form venders

- - 10 Wind of Verdure -> 1 Rough Wind (WIND ELEMENT)
- - 10 Red Blood -> 1 Flame Heart (FIRE ELEMENT)
- - 10 Crystal Blues -> 1 Mystic Frozen (WATER/ICE ELEMENT)
- - 10 Green Lives -> 1 Great Nature (EARTH ELEMENT)




---------- WEAPON MAKING ----------

(the main attribute/reason for making of a Forgesmith)

SMITH DAGGER (LVL 3)
- PRE REQUISTE OF ALL FORGING
- Knives are the start of the forging tree
- used mainly by dual dagger ASSASSINS and THIEVES

SMITH SWORD (LVL 3)
- PRE REQUISITE FOR "SMITH TWO HANDED SWORD"
- used mainly by Counter KNIGHTS and CRUSADERS

SMITH TWO HANDED SWORD (LVL 3)
- The EVER Popular CLAYMORES
- used solely by swordsman tree (and there are a lot of them out there)

SMITH AXE (LVL 3)
- NOT NEEDED but will be valuable for ALCHEMISTS (Possibly) and used MAINLY by BATTLE BLACKSMITHS

SMITH KNUCKLEBRACE (lvl 3)
- PRE REQUISITE of "SMITH MACE"
- Used solely by MONKS (and these breed like rabbits)

SMITH MACE (lvl 3)
- used mainly by acolytes and PURE FORGESMITHS (THIS IS YOU!)

SMITH SPEAR (LVL 3)
- used mainly by Spear (DUH) KNIGHTS and CRUSADERS





---------- OPTIONAL ----------

Oridecon Research lvl 5
- NOT NEEDED TO CONSTRUCT LEVEL 3 WEAPONS

- THIS IS THE MOST SKETCHY OF ALL THE BLACKSMITH SKILLS
- What it is supposed to do: raise success chance of forging a weapon that uses oridecons.
- What we know it does: allows use of a level 1 or level 2 hammer in making a level 3 weapon (HAMMERS ARE LATER)
- People will ask if you have this skill, so it might be wise to get it to level 3 even though it's max is level 5 (Some guides/Sites incorrectly label this)


WEAPON REPAIR (LVL 1)
- in AMATSU weapons will start breaking left and right and will need to be repaired
- better to get this skill over raising "ENCHANTED STONE CRAFT" past level 1
- can be considered useless as repair NPC is fairly easy access and cheap
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TOTAL OF SKILLS

--------- ESENTIALS ---------
HILT BINDING 1
WEAPON RESEARCH 10

TOTAL: 11
---------- WEAPONS ----------
DAGGER: 3
SWORD: 3
2HSWORD: 3
SPEAR: 3
AXE: 3
KNUCKLE: 3
MACE: 3

TOTAL: 21
------------ ORES -----------
IRON REFINING: 5
STEEL REFINING: 5
ELEMENTAL STONE REFINING: 1 + __

TOTAL 11 + __

---------- OPTIONAL ---------
RESEARCH ORIDECON: 5
WEAPON REPAIR: 1

TOTAL: 6

----------- TOTAL -----------
ESSENTIALS: 11
WEAPONS: 21
ORES: 11+ ___
OPTIONAL: 6
TOTAL = 43+___ OR job 44+__ OR (49 job 50 - NO EXTRA STONE MAKING)


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--------- BRIEF OVER VIEW OF FORGING ---------
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--------- HAMMERS ---------
Construct LVL 1 Weapons Iron Hammer (Buy in GEFFEN) COST: 1000 ZENY
Construct LVL 2 Weapons Golden Hammer (Buy in GEFFEN) COST: 3000 ZENY
Construct LVL 3 Weapons Oridecon Hammer (Buy in GEFFEN) COST: 5000 ZENY

- IN ORDER TO FORGE YOU NEED A HAMMER
- HAMMER HAS NO EFFECT ON FORGING SUCCESS (as far as we know)
- HAMMERS ARE USED ONCE AND DISSAPPEAR AFTER DOUBLE CLICK (MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ALL THE REQUIRED MATERIALS)

--------- ANVILS ----------

IRON ANVIL: --------,___ USELESS DO NOT BUY, SAVE UP FOR AT LEAST A GOLDEN ANVIL
ORIDECON ANVIL: ----'

GOLDEN ANVIL: 300K (Buy in GEFFEN)

EMPERIUM ANVIL: RARE --- Gift Box/OPB/OBB
- THE ONLY WORTH WHILE ANVIL!!
- Aceept nothing less (CURRENT COST 12 MILLION)



The ANVIL USED ADDS to SUCCESS RATE: (HOW MUCH WE DO NOT KNOW)
ANVIL does not DISAPPEAR... INFINITLY RE-USABLE



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-- UNDERSTANDING HOW FORGING REALLY HAPPENS --
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BASE SUCCESS RATE: 15%
BASE STATS: +21.2%
JOB BONUSES: +15%
WEAPON RESEARCH: +10%

TOTAL: 61.2% SUCCESS CHANCE PRETTY NICE ! ("DOUBLE ATTACK" has less a chance than this)



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NOW FOR THE MECHANICS OF FORGING WEAPONS THAT WILL ALTER THIS DRAMATICALLY

FOR EACH LEVEL PLACED INTO A "SMITH _______" SKILL you gain +10% SUCCESSRATE
so:
SMITH _____ LEVEL 1 = +10%
SMITH _____ LEVEL 2 = +20%
SMITH _____ LEVEL 3 = +30%

BUT
EACH WEAPON LEVEL SUBTRACTS 10% SUCCESS RATE
so:
A LEVEL 1 WEAPON = -0%
A LEVEL 2 WEAPON = -10%
A LEVEL 3 WEAPON = -20%




----- USING THIS CUTE OPPOSITE EFFECT: -----

FORGING A LEVEL 1 WEAPON WITH SMITH _____ LEVEL 1 IS LIKE GAINING 10% SUCCESS CHANCE
FORGING A LEVEL 2 WEAPON WITH SMITH _____ LEVEL 1 IS NOT POSSIBLE
FORGING A LEVEL 3 WEAPON WITH SMITH _____ LEVEL 1 IS NOT POSSIBLE


FORGING A LEVEL 1 WEAPON WITH SMITH _____ LEVEL 2 IS LIKE GAINING 20% SUCCESS CHANCE
FORGING A LEVEL 2 WEAPON WITH SMITH _____ LEVEL 2 IS LIKE GAINING 10% SUCCESS CHANCE
FORGING A LEVEL 3 WEAPON WITH SMITH _____ LEVEL 2 IS NOT POSSIBLE

FORGING A LEVEL 1 WEAPON WITH SMITH _____ LEVEL 3 IS LIKE GAINING 30% SUCCESS CHANCE
FORGING A LEVEL 2 WEAPON WITH SMITH _____ LEVEL 3 IS LIKE GAINING 20% SUCCESS CHANCE
FORGING A LEVEL 3 WEAPON WITH SMITH _____ LEVEL 3 IS LIKE GAINING 10% SUCCESS CHANCE


NOW FOR THE EVEN MORE PAINFUL SUCCESS REDUCERS

"ENCHANTED STONES"
- elemental stones reduce success rate by -30%
- no one is gonna come to you for a regular weapon
- this -30% success chance is imminent

STAR CRUMBS
- EACH STAR CRUMB REDUCES THE SUCCESS CHANCE BY -10%
- YOU CAN HAVE UPTO 2 STAR CRUMBS --> -20% chance



YES it's SAD

BUT IT BRINGS THE BASE ESSENTIALLY TO:

LEVEL 1 WEAPON: 91.2% - 30% = 61.2%
LEVEL 2 WEAPON: 81.2% - 30% = 51.2%
LEVEL 3 WEAPON: 71.2% - 30% = 41.2%


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----- WANT TO BOOST YOUR SUCCESS CHANCE? -----
----------------------------------------------

THE BASIC MOST EASIEST WAY

FIND A PRIEST:
"BLESSING" adds +1% SUCCESS RATE
"GLORIA" adds +3% SUCCESS RATE


THE HARD WAY

--------- BEST GEAR ---------

------- IN IRO -------
HEAD UPPER: APPLE OF ARCHER (+3 DEX)

BODY: PORING CARD (+2 LUCK)

ACCESSORY 1: SLOTTED GLOVE WITH ZEROM CARD ( 1 + 3 DEX (+4 DEX))
ACCESSORY 2: SLOTTED GLOVE WITH ZEROM CARD ( 1 + 3 DEX (+4 DEX))

SHOES: CRYSTAL PUMPS (FEMALE ONLY) -- MEN CAN WEAR (LUK +5)

WEAPON: Fortune Sword (+5 Luck)

TOTAL = DEX = 11, Luck = 12, OVER ALL = 33 --> +3.3%
with BLESS GLORIA --> 7.3%

FORGING CALCULATOR -- http://tomcat1.s13.xrea.com/bs/calc_en.html


@Shadow of Death :
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PostDikirim: Rab Ags 31, 2005 9:49 am    Judul: Report As Abusive, Offensive, or Rule Breaking Report As FlameStarter Report As Spam Vote For Sticky Vote For Award Balas dengan kutipan

KK , milih mana Bloody Axe[2hnd] ato War Axe[1] ? yg paling enak buat WoE ?
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PostDikirim: Jum Sep 02, 2005 12:46 am    Judul: Report As Abusive, Offensive, or Rule Breaking Report As FlameStarter Report As Spam Vote For Sticky Vote For Award Balas dengan kutipan

Hngg ?? WOE ??
Bloody Axe buat ngebut ke emper atau ngejar knet Ragnarok Emote

War Axe ??? Senjata lvl 4 ?? Berat 460 ?? Slot 1 ??
Ga ah Thank You Ragnarok Emote

Mending buat gebuk pake senjata jenis mace/axe one handed yang slotnya 3 ato 4, isi hydra n skel worker.

Trus pake Cranial, pake Poo Poo Hat, Pake Immune.
Mendingan, masi bisa berharap ga mati diasura. Ragnarok Emote
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PostDikirim: Jum Sep 02, 2005 6:00 am    Judul: Report As Abusive, Offensive, or Rule Breaking Report As FlameStarter Report As Spam Vote For Sticky Vote For Award Balas dengan kutipan

zenbonzakura wrote:
KK , milih mana Bloody Axe[2hnd] ato War Axe[1] ? yg paling enak buat WoE ?


sebenernya 2 senjata diatas bukan untuk dipake mukul tp lebih bagus cuma dipake buat koleksi.
blodyaxe keliatannya serem attack jg besar tp kekurangangan nya dia ga slot dan harganya yg relatif mahal..klo dibandingkan dgn THA jelas THA lebih unggul krn THA bisa kmu upgrade ampe batas Max sedangkan BlodyAxe kebanyakan cuma ampe 4-5 soalnya ketok nya jg rada serem...klo kmu suka kebut2an pas woe yah cocok nya pake BlodyAxe...meningkatkan Agi disini tdk berlaku buat nambah Aspd melainkan hanya sebagain Agi-Up saja.
WarAxe...no koment buat yg satu soalnya bener2 junk's weapon
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PostDikirim: Kam Sep 22, 2005 9:52 pm    Judul: Report As Abusive, Offensive, or Rule Breaking Report As FlameStarter Report As Spam Vote For Sticky Vote For Award Balas dengan kutipan

kalo di itung2
unt WS battle keknya skill poiintnya gak cukup tuh
apalage dgn adanya skill tambahan itu
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uhm bs request stat u BS agi ku nda ?? stat skrg
str 67
agi 68
vit 1
int 1
dex 28
luk 1
dah lv 71 skrg ^^ tolong yha di itungin Ragnarok Emote Ragnarok Emote eqp na +7 rata
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PostDikirim: Min Sep 25, 2005 11:11 am    Judul: Report As Abusive, Offensive, or Rule Breaking Report As FlameStarter Report As Spam Vote For Sticky Vote For Award Balas dengan kutipan

LynZ wrote:
uhm bs request stat u BS agi ku nda ?? stat skrg
---- cut ----

vit 1

---- cut ---
dah lv 71 skrg ^^ tolong yha di itungin eqp na +7 rata


Vit 1 .. (0.0)a .. ndak keteteran itu huntnya .. apa di GB .. ??

Atau mungkin naikin Vit nya terakhir kali yah ..

IMO .. Dex total 50 .. klo bisa Str 99 .. biar mantap gitu Mamo & HF nya ..
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PostDikirim: Sen Sep 26, 2005 12:43 pm    Judul: Report As Abusive, Offensive, or Rule Breaking Report As FlameStarter Report As Spam Vote For Sticky Vote For Award Balas dengan kutipan

Kalo da dex-nya totalnya 40 aja..(seinget aku kalo dex 40 itu udah cukup buat BS sih) nah stats lainnya kan bisa dimasukin ke str, agi/vit Cool
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PostDikirim: Sen Sep 26, 2005 12:46 pm    Judul: Report As Abusive, Offensive, or Rule Breaking Report As FlameStarter Report As Spam Vote For Sticky Vote For Award Balas dengan kutipan

uhm nda keteteran tuch Ragnarok Emote Ragnarok Emote mungkin karena giLa kli yha , selama ini hunt na di byalan 4 solo , nda pna diGB , bw wp mpe 300an tp mayan lho , ano dex 40 itu min?? soal na kmrn di itungin ma temen
dex 28
agi 86
str 99
stat na bagus nda ?? nda pna itung stat se >.<
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PostDikirim: Sen Sep 26, 2005 1:28 pm    Judul: Report As Abusive, Offensive, or Rule Breaking Report As FlameStarter Report As Spam Vote For Sticky Vote For Award Balas dengan kutipan

bagus tuh...itu ntar kan total dex-nya 40 kan ya....bisa spam mammonite tuch
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uhm ia , aku kira dex yg depan musti 40 >.< deuch baru cek BS kuw , kayak nya bakaL gagaL de Ragnarok Emote Ragnarok Emote soal na br sadar , Mamo na lom 10 -.-!! dapet na mungkin lv 7 Mamo na Ragnarok Emote Ragnarok Emote gara² naekin OC en DC trus job pas merchant 40 Ragnarok Emote
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